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Tuesday, June 18, 2013

"Saving The Appearances" by Owen Barfield Is Our Book For July

Owen Barfield was C.S. Lewis's friend of the second kind.  He was also C.S. Lewis's soliciter and handled his financial affairs.  Lewis describes a friend of the second kind in his autobiography, "Surprised by Joy" as:

"... the Second Friend is the man who disagrees with you about everything.  He is not so much the alter ego as the antiself.  Of course he shares your interests; otherwise he would not become your friend at all.  But he has approached them all at a different angle.  He has read all the right books but has got the wrong thing out of every one.  It is as if he spoke your language but mispronounced it.  How can he be so nearly right and yet, invariably, just not right? ..."

That was the relationship that Jack Lewis had with Owen Barfield.  They went at each other hammer and tongs in what Lewis, at least, characterized as The Great War.  Lewis came out of it cleansed of his chronological snobbery while Barfield emerged largely unscathed.  We'll be exploring Barfield this month and on July 11th Elizabeth will be our discussion leader on Barfield's Saving the Appearances.

July 11th Owen Barfield's Saving the Appearances led by Elizabeth
August 8th Jane Austen's Sense and Sensibility led by Cristabel
September 12th The Magician's Twin a group of essays edited by John West and our discussion leader will be Peggy (We'll also agree on the selection of essays to read from God In The Dock)
October 10th Selected Essays from God In The Dock by C.S. Lewis led by Melissa
November 8th The Literary Impact of the Authorized Version an essay by C.S. Lewis (17 pages) led by Iain 
December 12th or thereabouts The Annual C.S. Lewis Society Christmas Party where we bring a snack to share and discuss the plans for the coming year 

Thursday, June 6, 2013

Discussion Questions For Our June 13th Meeting


The Inklings  
       C.S. Lewis, J.R.R. Tolkien, Charles Williams, And Their Friends by Humphrey Carpenter

Discussion Questions: (June 13th meeting Ray as discussion leader)
1) What is this all about anyway?  How would you summarize what Carpenter is trying to accomplish with the book?  Do you think he succeeded?  Why? or Why Not?
2) What is it like ... comparables? How does this book compare with other biographical books about C.S. Lewis and his friends that you may be familiar with.
3) What are the fundamental common threads that joined the company, the Inklings, and how did they change over time?  What were the factors that drew them together and what were the factors that tended to drive them apart?
4) Share something you strongly agree with or strongly disagree with that is in the book.
5) Lewis and Tolkien shared a common sense of myth that was not widely shared outside their group.  What is your view of myth and Mythopoeia?
6) Carpenter goes looking for a 'A fox that isn't there' is Part Three (153).  What did you think of his search?  Do you agree or disagree?
7) Carpenter seems to be very critical of Lewis, especially towards the end of the book.  Comment on your perceptions of his criticisms.
8) What did you make of the treatment of Charles Williams in the book?  Was Williams an attractive or unattractive individual based on your perspective?
9) Is the treatment of the Inklings as an instance of an Inner Ring fair or unfair to the Inklings?
10) What do you carry away after reading it?

Schedule:
July 11th Owen Barfield's Saving the Appearances led by Elizabeth
August 8th Jane Austen's Sense and Sensibility led by Cristabel
September 12th The Magician's Twin a group of essays edited by John West and our discussion leader will be Peggy (We'll also agree on the selection of essays to read from God In The Dock)
October 10th Selected Essays from God In The Dock by C.S. Lewis led by Melissa
November 8th The Literary Impact of the Authorized Version an essay by C.S. Lewis (17 pages) led by Iain (http://www.biblicalstudies.org.uk/pdf/kjv_lewis.pdf )
December 12th or thereabouts The Annual C.S. Lewis Society Christmas Party where we bring a snack to share and discuss the plans for the coming year
The website for the C.S. Lewis Society of Harrisonburg can be found at:
http://cslewissocietyhburg.blogspot.com/


Thursday, May 9, 2013

Our June 13th Meeting Will Be On The Inklings

The Inklings by Humphrey Carpenter is our book for the June 13th meeting.  The book is only available from third party sellers but rather economically SEE HERE  Ray will be our discussion leader.

The books for the remainder of the year are:

June 13th Humphrey Carpenter's The Inklings led by Ray
July 11th Owen Barfield's Saving the Appearances led by Elizabeth
August 8th Jane Austen's Sense and Sensibility led by Cristabel
September 12th The Magician's Twin a group of essays edited by John West and our discussion leader will be Peggy (We'll also agree on the selection of essays to read from God In The Dock)
October 10th Selected Essays from God In The Dock by C.S. Lewis led by Melissa
November 8th The Literary Impact of the Authorized Version an essay by C.S. Lewis (17 pages) led by Iain 
December 12th or thereabouts The Annual C.S. Lewis Society Christmas Party where we bring a snack to share and discuss the plans for the coming year

Thursday, April 11, 2013

May 9th We Will Be Doing Letters to a Diminished Church by Dorothy Sayers


On May 9th Cristabel will be our discussion leader on Dorothy Sayers work, Letters to a Diminished Church, subtitled Passionate Arguments for the Relevance of Christian Doctrine.
  

Schedule for the Remainder of the Year

May 9th Dorothy Sayers Letters to a Diminished Church led by Cristabel
June 13th Humphrey Carpenter's The Inklings led by Ray
July 11th Owen Barfield's Saving the Appearances led by Elizabeth
August 8th Jane Austen's Sense and Sensibility led by Cristabel
September 12th The Magician's Twin a group of essays edited by John West and our discussion leader will be Peggy
October 10th Selected Essays from God In The Dock by C.S. Lewis led by Melissa
November 8th The Literary Impact of the Authorized Version an essay by C.S. Lewis (17 pages) led by Iain 
December 12th or thereabouts The Annual C.S. Lewis Society Christmas Party where we bring a snack to share and discuss the plans for the coming year

Monday, April 8, 2013

Sir Gibbie Questions from Jane


Sir Gibbie Questions

We will be meeting this Thursday April 11th at Barnes and Noble in Harrisonburg at 7:30 p.m. to discuss George Macdonald's book "Sir Gibbie" with Jane as our discussion leader.

A few questions to get you thinking:

1) How important is Gibbie's muteness?

2) What was your favorite part of Sir Gibbie?

3) What character did you like, or related to, the most? Why?

4) Which character did you dislike, or find the most heinous? Why?

5) What ideas, themes or characters do you see in Sir Gibbie that bear resemblance to the ideas, themes or characters in Lewis’ works?

6) (Chapter 5.) What do you make of Gibbie’s heaven and paradise with his drunken father? How does Gibbie’s father relate to the Heavenly Father

7) Is it surprising that Sir George knows Gibbie better than anyone else?

8) How much is Mistress Croale responsible for Gibbie? Sir George?

9) What is it about Sambo's murder that causes Gibbie's loss of innocence and ensuing jourmey?

Some quotes I liked:

(19.) Belief and unbelief are not always quite plainly distinguishable from each other, and Fear is not always certain which of them is his mother.

MacDonald, George (2012-05-12). Sir Gibbie (p. 96). . Kindle Edition.

21.) On the other hand, Donal had in return done more for Gibbie than he knew, though what he had done for him, namely, shared his dinners with him, had been less of a gift than he thought, and Donal had rather been sharing in Gibbie's dinner, than Gibbie in Donal's.

MacDonald, George (2012-05-12). Sir Gibbie (p. 106). . Kindle Edition.

(22.) The word of Christ is spirit and life, and where the heart is aglow, the tongue will follow that spirit and life fearlessly, and will not err.

MacDonald, George (2012-05-12). Sir Gibbie (p. 114). . Kindle Edition.

(23.) It is the heart that is not yet sure of its God, that is afraid to laugh in his presence.

MacDonald, George (2012-05-12). Sir Gibbie (p. 119). . Kindle Edition.

Monday, March 18, 2013

April 11th We Will Discuss Sir Gibbie By George Macdonald

On April 11th we will be discussing George Macdonald's Sir Gibbie with Jane as our discussion leader.  Sir Gibbie is available from Project Gutenberg HERE

We will also be discussing our schedule for months beyond July.

Our schedule for May through July is given below:
 
May 9th Dorothy Sayers Letters to a Diminished Church led by Cristabel
June 13th Humphrey Carpenter's The Inklings led by Ray
July 11th Owen Barfield's Saving the Appearances led by Elizabeth

Additional works we might flesh out the year with and Iain suggested a small work by Lewis on the King James Bible and its interpretation, and a work by Lewis was suggested from his time at Oxford as a student, his diary, All My Road Before Me.  We'll try to get these scheduled.  Some other works which we're expecting to do during the year are:
Peggy leading a discussion on The Magician's Twin a group of essays edited by John West.
Jane Austen's Sense and Sensibility led by Cristabel.
Mellisa leading a discussion of several essays from God In The Dock.

Sunday, March 10, 2013

Questions for March 14th Meeting

Letters to Malcolm Chiefly on Prayer

1 ) In letter one, Lewis complains of the “liturgical fidget.” He also states that, “The perfect church service would be one we were almost unaware of; our attention would have been on God.”

Do you agree or disagree. Why?

Lewis then goes on to say that, “Every novelty prevents this. It fixes our attention on the service itself; and thinking about worship is a different thing from worshipping.”

Do you agree that church services must always be exactly the same to be useful?

2) In letter two, Lewis discusses memorized (or written) prayers vs. spontaneous prayers. He states that he can take or leave memorized prayers because to him “words are secondary.” What do you think he means by “words are secondary,” and do you agree or disagree?

What are your own feelings about memorized prayers vs. spontaneous prayers?

3) In letter six, Lewis objects to the very word religion because it suggests that religion is just one more department (compartment?) in life such as economic, social, intellectual etc. But, then he says that there is danger when people understand that religion shouldn’t exist as a department because people will either think that
1) it should be abolished entirely,
2) will misinterpret extending religion into all of life by insisting that more and more secular events should be opened with prayer, “that a wearisomely explicit pietism should infest our talk, there should be no more cakes and ale,”
3) sink into despair.

What do you think of this?

4) In letter eight, Lewis says, “Some people guilty about their anxieties and regard them as a defect of faith. I don’t agree at all. They are afflictions, not sins.”

Do you agree or disagree with this?

Earlier in the same letter Lewis talks about the temptation to attempt reassurances when trying to comfort someone who is facing terminal illness (or who has just lost a loved one). Lewis says, “Even now certain remembered moments of fallacious comfort twist my heart more than the remembered moment of despair.”

Discuss this. Do you agree?

Also in letter eight Lewis talks about Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane. He says, “it is clear from many of His sayings that Our Lord had long forseen His death. He knew what conduct such as His, in a world such as we have made of this, must inevitably lead to. But it is clear that this knowledge must somehow have been withdrawn from Him before He prayed in Gethsemane.”

Do you agree or disagree that the knowledge that he was going to die a horrible death was “somehow withdrawn from Him?”

5) In letter sixteen, Malcolm’s wife Betty wants to know why Lewis doesn’t “use images as the rest of us do,” and accuses him of a phobia of idolatry. Lewis says that the use of images has very limited use for him and goes on to say, “I think the mere fact of keeping one’s eyes focused on something – almost any object will do – is some help towards concentration. The visual concentration symbolizes, and promotes, the mental..”

What do you think of the use of images, such as a sanctuary cross, as part of worship space and experience?

What else helps you concentrate and focus on your prayers?